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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108665</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Muslims can be very welcoming.  However, Islam isn&#039;t as you portray it.  We&#039;re talking about the religion here...not the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Muslims can be very welcoming.  However, Islam isn&#8217;t as you portray it.  We&#8217;re talking about the religion here&#8230;not the people.</p>
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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108533</link>
		<dc:creator>deviousdiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but most Brits haven’t set foot in a church accept for the odd christening, we only bring up being a “Chrisitian Country” when we want to draw attention to the problem of “too many Muslims wanting to take over our ‘Christian country&lt;/blockquote&gt;

lol

That&#039;s my experience of Christianity in England too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but most Brits haven’t set foot in a church accept for the odd christening, we only bring up being a “Chrisitian Country” when we want to draw attention to the problem of “too many Muslims wanting to take over our ‘Christian country</p></blockquote>
<p>lol</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my experience of Christianity in England too!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scowcroft</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108532</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scowcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Are you a Muslim, Michael?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ve answered your question before. I&#039;m not Muslim. 

 I was born and brought up in an area of London which has a large Muslim community, my best friends at school were Muslims, many of my closest friends now are Muslims, i lived amongst Muslims, experienced their festivals and religious celebrations, i lived in their homes as they did in mine, i ate their food as they did mine. Their hospitality and acceptance of me as a Christian was more forthcoming than my fellow Christian &quot;indigenous Brits&quot; (the UK is supposedly a &quot;Christian country&quot; but most Brits haven&#039;t set foot in a church accept for the odd christening, we only bring up being a &quot;Chrisitian Country&quot; when we want to draw attention to the problem of &quot;too many Muslims wanting to take over our &#039;Christian country&#039;&quot;). 

Most Muslims are just like the rest of us, they share exactly the same problems as us - we are all in the same boat - that&#039;s why i can&#039;t stand people demonising a group of people on the basis of misinformation and scaremongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Are you a Muslim, Michael?</strong></em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve answered your question before. I&#8217;m not Muslim. </p>
<p> I was born and brought up in an area of London which has a large Muslim community, my best friends at school were Muslims, many of my closest friends now are Muslims, i lived amongst Muslims, experienced their festivals and religious celebrations, i lived in their homes as they did in mine, i ate their food as they did mine. Their hospitality and acceptance of me as a Christian was more forthcoming than my fellow Christian &#8220;indigenous Brits&#8221; (the UK is supposedly a &#8220;Christian country&#8221; but most Brits haven&#8217;t set foot in a church accept for the odd christening, we only bring up being a &#8220;Chrisitian Country&#8221; when we want to draw attention to the problem of &#8220;too many Muslims wanting to take over our &#8216;Christian country&#8217;&#8221;). </p>
<p>Most Muslims are just like the rest of us, they share exactly the same problems as us &#8211; we are all in the same boat &#8211; that&#8217;s why i can&#8217;t stand people demonising a group of people on the basis of misinformation and scaremongering.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108529</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a Muslim, Michael?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a Muslim, Michael?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scowcroft</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108515</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scowcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quran-only is a small, persecuted FRINGE movement in Islam. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Disregarding some texts of the hadiths doesn&#039;t necessarily make you a &#039;Quran-only&#039; Muslim. You may disregard some hadtihs which you do not consider pious but believe in other hadiths which you do consider pious. How can you be a &#039;Quran-only&#039; Muslim when you believe in some hadiths?

Do you refute the concept of Muslims being able to decide which hadiths they accept as pious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Quran-only is a small, persecuted FRINGE movement in Islam. </strong></em></p>
<p>Disregarding some texts of the hadiths doesn&#8217;t necessarily make you a &#8216;Quran-only&#8217; Muslim. You may disregard some hadtihs which you do not consider pious but believe in other hadiths which you do consider pious. How can you be a &#8216;Quran-only&#8217; Muslim when you believe in some hadiths?</p>
<p>Do you refute the concept of Muslims being able to decide which hadiths they accept as pious?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108514</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am addressing the issue.  Quran-only is a small, persecuted FRINGE movement in Islam.  

I have worshipped in a mosque and believe me, you wouldn&#039;t have wanted to go around preaching Quran-only there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am addressing the issue.  Quran-only is a small, persecuted FRINGE movement in Islam.  </p>
<p>I have worshipped in a mosque and believe me, you wouldn&#8217;t have wanted to go around preaching Quran-only there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scowcroft</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108513</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scowcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try addressing the points i&#039;m actually making rather than highlighting sentences and going off at irrelevant tangents.

Have you ever worshipped in a mosque?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try addressing the points i&#8217;m actually making rather than highlighting sentences and going off at irrelevant tangents.</p>
<p>Have you ever worshipped in a mosque?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108512</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;You will not be considered any less of a Muslim&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

ROFL

Try telling that to mainstream Muslims who are religious enough to attend a mosque on a regular basis.  It won&#039;t go over very well.

If you are Quran-only then you know that I&#039;m right so stop pretending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>You will not be considered any less of a Muslim</em></strong></p>
<p>ROFL</p>
<p>Try telling that to mainstream Muslims who are religious enough to attend a mosque on a regular basis.  It won&#8217;t go over very well.</p>
<p>If you are Quran-only then you know that I&#8217;m right so stop pretending.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scowcroft</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108511</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scowcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;However, try walking into any mainstream mosque and announcing that you are Quran-only&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

You don&#039;t have to say that you&#039;re &lt;em&gt;Quran-only&lt;/em&gt;. As a Muslim you are free to accept those hadiths which you are personally happy with following. You can disregard the texts which you personally believe are not pious or against your conscience.  You will not be considered any less of a Muslim for doing this because the hadiths are written by men and not considered the word of God.

This argument is going around in circles because you refuse to understand some fundamental concepts in Islam.

I think it&#039;s fortunate that you left a religion that you don&#039;t really understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>However, try walking into any mainstream mosque and announcing that you are Quran-only</strong></em></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to say that you&#8217;re <em>Quran-only</em>. As a Muslim you are free to accept those hadiths which you are personally happy with following. You can disregard the texts which you personally believe are not pious or against your conscience.  You will not be considered any less of a Muslim for doing this because the hadiths are written by men and not considered the word of God.</p>
<p>This argument is going around in circles because you refuse to understand some fundamental concepts in Islam.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s fortunate that you left a religion that you don&#8217;t really understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108510</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, you can discard whatever you want, in theory.  However, try walking into any mainstream mosque and announcing that you are Quran-only.  

Mainstream Islam does not take kindly to this movement.  They do not represent Islam.  They represent an &#039;Islam&#039; which has never been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, you can discard whatever you want, in theory.  However, try walking into any mainstream mosque and announcing that you are Quran-only.  </p>
<p>Mainstream Islam does not take kindly to this movement.  They do not represent Islam.  They represent an &#8216;Islam&#8217; which has never been.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scowcroft</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108509</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scowcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss, did you actually hear the religious scholar in the Youtube video i provided?

He says that if a Muslim reads things in the hadiths which they are not happy with, or seem bad or negative, they can discard them because they are written by man and not the word of God. You are not required to follow every word of the hadiths to be considered a devout Muslim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss, did you actually hear the religious scholar in the Youtube video i provided?</p>
<p>He says that if a Muslim reads things in the hadiths which they are not happy with, or seem bad or negative, they can discard them because they are written by man and not the word of God. You are not required to follow every word of the hadiths to be considered a devout Muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108508</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to get into a Quran-only debate with you.  However, I will say that the Quran-only movement is very fringe and not accepted by mainstream Muslims. Its followers are routinely persecuted and you don&#039;t want to walk into a non-Quran-only mosque and announce that you hold this view.

The Quran absolutely does say to fight non-believers until they submit.  Do you agree with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to get into a Quran-only debate with you.  However, I will say that the Quran-only movement is very fringe and not accepted by mainstream Muslims. Its followers are routinely persecuted and you don&#8217;t want to walk into a non-Quran-only mosque and announce that you hold this view.</p>
<p>The Quran absolutely does say to fight non-believers until they submit.  Do you agree with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scowcroft</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108507</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scowcroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From your own source:

&quot;the Quran does not come out and state explicitly that apostates should be killed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your own source:</p>
<p>&#8220;the Quran does not come out and state explicitly that apostates should be killed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108506</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that some Muslims want to reject the ahadith.  However, they&#039;re a small, persecuted fringe movement. Most Muslims do not believe this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that some Muslims want to reject the ahadith.  However, they&#8217;re a small, persecuted fringe movement. Most Muslims do not believe this.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2009/03/16/makeshift-mosques-update/#comment-108505</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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