Comments on: The Far Right on the Rise http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/ The only thing necessary for the persistence of evil is for enough good people to do nothing. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:23:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: deviousdiva http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-105227 deviousdiva Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:21:04 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-105227 The problem is that most discussion about immigration is already framed as being about race. Chrysi Avgi are racist by their own definition. They are proud of being racist so it's unfortunate that you use them as an example. I will point out racism where I see it. And I see it in the far-right groups in this post because it is there. They are radical all by themselves. That has nothing to do with me "demonizing" them. The problem is that most discussion about immigration is already framed as being about race. Chrysi Avgi are racist by their own definition. They are proud of being racist so it’s unfortunate that you use them as an example.

I will point out racism where I see it. And I see it in the far-right groups in this post because it is there. They are radical all by themselves. That has nothing to do with me “demonizing” them.

]]> By: Post Disagreement http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-105215 Post Disagreement Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:47:43 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-105215 Chrysi Avgi and other groups like that...become more popular because the traditional main stream parties are not addressing the immigration disaster. When any opposition regardless of how moderate is demonized as xenophobic or racist the discussion ends and then people become radicallized. This is the problem with political correctness.. No open debate and discussion about peoples concerns about the new comers leads to all this.. I suppose to you my saying hey this is a small country of 10,000,000 this is too many people coming in now from too many countries with too many cultural dissimilarities you will dismiss this as racist..HATE.. when its just an observation that different cultures clash when they encounter each other...and assimilation works by having LOW immigration.. Chrysi Avgi and other groups like that…become more popular because the traditional main stream parties are not addressing the immigration disaster.
When any opposition regardless of how moderate is demonized as xenophobic or racist the discussion ends and then people become radicallized.

This is the problem with political correctness.. No open debate and discussion about peoples concerns about the new comers leads to all this..

I suppose to you my saying hey this is a small country of 10,000,000 this is too many people coming in now from too many countries with too many cultural dissimilarities you will dismiss this as racist..HATE.. when its just an observation that different cultures clash when they encounter each other…and assimilation works by having LOW immigration..

]]> By: db0 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63142 db0 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:04:46 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63142 [quote]I won't be blub[/quote] Right, so I guess you don't really have any personality but rather use the "Greek archetype" to define yourself? [quote]I won’t be blub[/quote]

Right, so I guess you don’t really have any personality but rather use the “Greek archetype” to define yourself?

]]> By: Hermes http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63043 Hermes Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:55:45 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63043 Non-nationalistic Greeks? What does that mean? If we're not nationalistic, then we are just European blub. Maybe that's the point of the EU: blur boundaries and turn us all into indistinguishable blub. I won't be blub. Non-nationalistic Greeks?

What does that mean?

If we’re not nationalistic, then we are just European blub.

Maybe that’s the point of the EU: blur boundaries and turn us all into indistinguishable blub.

I won’t be blub.

]]> By: db0 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63041 db0 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:24:01 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63041 <blockquote>the Far Left would come out on top by a mile. Why is there no mention of their imposition of their Fascist ideology on the poor law abiding citizens of Greece?</blockquote> The far lest being fascists? You do realize that fascism is a far-right ideology right? As for the left ruining the country, well, that would be difficult since they have never been in power and the country keeps getting shittier. The more right it gets, the shittier it gets as well so go figure...

the Far Left would come out on top by a mile. Why is there no mention of their imposition of their Fascist ideology on the poor law abiding citizens of Greece?

The far lest being fascists? You do realize that fascism is a far-right ideology right?

As for the left ruining the country, well, that would be difficult since they have never been in power and the country keeps getting shittier. The more right it gets, the shittier it gets as well so go figure…

]]> By: Tom http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63036 Tom Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:09:05 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63036 I've been browsing the blogs in Greece the last few weeks and found this one. It seems that Greeks love to argue and speak loud. Living in Greece this last year I've observed some strange things with my wife's family and Greeks in general in the neighborhood. For example, on Easter, my wife's father and brother's fight over who gets to eat the lamb brain. And then my wife's aunt forks the eyeball and chases me around with it, trying to get me to eat it, 'cause it's gonna make me smart. My wife has 27 first cousins. Just 27 first cousins alone! And the whole family is big and loud. And everybody is in each other's lives and business. All the time! Like, you never just have a minute alone, just to think, 'Cause we're always together, just eating, eating, eating! The only other people they know are Greeks, 'cause Greeks marry Greeks to breed more Greeks, to be loud breeding Greek eaters. My wife broke the mold when she married me... God save us! I’ve been browsing the blogs in Greece the last few weeks and found this one. It seems that Greeks love to argue and speak loud.

Living in Greece this last year I’ve observed some strange things with my wife’s family and Greeks in general in the neighborhood. For example, on Easter, my wife’s father and brother’s fight over who gets to eat the lamb brain.

And then my wife’s aunt forks the eyeball and chases me around with it, trying to get me to eat it, ’cause it’s gonna make me smart.

My wife has 27 first cousins. Just 27 first cousins alone! And the whole family is big and loud. And everybody is in each other’s lives and business. All the time! Like, you never just have a minute alone, just to think, ‘Cause we’re always together, just eating, eating, eating! The only other people they know are Greeks, ’cause Greeks marry Greeks to breed more Greeks, to be loud breeding Greek eaters.

My wife broke the mold when she married me…

God save us!

]]> By: AgainstCommunism http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63030 AgainstCommunism Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:21:52 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63030 "The campus is also awash with vicious rumours which I happen to think are a little unfair but the mob always take it a little too far." Do tell more Legein! My spider-senses are tingling! “The campus is also awash with vicious rumours which I happen to think are a little unfair but the mob always take it a little too far.”

Do tell more Legein! My spider-senses are tingling!

]]> By: Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63029 Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:35:31 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63029 <i>I have asked DD to censor the blog properly.</i> What else do people like Martin know how to do but to censor and oppress? If you do not agree with them then censoring, in all its forms, is what needs to be done. Who gives a crap about freedom of speech and thought? Martin is OK with word and thought crimes. Sheesh, what a loon. And HE is giving advice to people of power? I have asked DD to censor the blog properly.

What else do people like Martin know how to do but to censor and oppress? If you do not agree with them then censoring, in all its forms, is what needs to be done. Who gives a crap about freedom of speech and thought? Martin is OK with word and thought crimes. Sheesh, what a loon. And HE is giving advice to people of power?

]]> By: Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63028 Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:30:05 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63028 Yeeeaaah right. Oh Martin! If you cannot stand a little heat from a few "peasants" and are unable to defend your bigoted self, be a man and just say so. No need to shroud it in anything else. Life is rarely as simple as your little academic echo chamber where you all form a a happy little circle jerk and congratulate each other on your "successes". Convincing people who do not agree with you with logic, data, and honour is what creates greatness and changes the minds of the masses. Not being a condescending little snot who despises anyone who DARES disagree with you all the while calling everyone peasant, stupid, idiot, racist etc. Run off now and lick your wounds. Yeeeaaah right. Oh Martin! If you cannot stand a little heat from a few “peasants” and are unable to defend your bigoted self, be a man and just say so. No need to shroud it in anything else. Life is rarely as simple as your little academic echo chamber where you all form a a happy little circle jerk and congratulate each other on your “successes”. Convincing people who do not agree with you with logic, data, and honour is what creates greatness and changes the minds of the masses. Not being a condescending little snot who despises anyone who DARES disagree with you all the while calling everyone peasant, stupid, idiot, racist etc. Run off now and lick your wounds.

]]> By: Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63026 Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:17:36 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63026 George asks: <i>Where are all the non-nationalistic Greeks at?</i> They are all busy ruining the country, George. Preparing to start riots. Swarming and attacking anyone who dares to disagree with them. You know; fun stuff like that. Though it IS quite telling that George is unable to defend himself here without his friends. Clearly there is strength in mob numbers. A short word to the wise; if you cannot defend your position without name calling or shouting down, then your position is embarrassingly weak and may not be worth what you think it is. George asks:

Where are all the non-nationalistic Greeks at?

They are all busy ruining the country, George. Preparing to start riots. Swarming and attacking anyone who dares to disagree with them. You know; fun stuff like that.

Though it IS quite telling that George is unable to defend himself here without his friends. Clearly there is strength in mob numbers.

A short word to the wise; if you cannot defend your position without name calling or shouting down, then your position is embarrassingly weak and may not be worth what you think it is.

]]> By: legein http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63025 legein Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:25:43 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63025 Judging by John Z's comments, who appears to have a stronger grasp of the mongrel races that populate what people call the British Isles, I think Martin is Welsh. Nevertheless, he is definitely not coping which is evidenced by his reflexive "peasant" and other comments which have become so tiresome, boring, unoriginal and lacking in any academic rigour of any sort. The campus is also awash with vicious rumours which I happen to think are a little unfair but the mob always take it a little too far. As for the Far Right in Greece. Spare us. It really is a poor excuse for a Far Right compared to the institutionalised Far Right of our beautiful neighbour Turkey and the weirdo-criminal-Far-whatever up north in Albania and Kosovo. Also, if one was to aggregate the damage done to private and public property in Athens and Thessaloniki over the last 15 years I think the Far Left would come out on top by a mile. Why is there no mention of their imposition of their Fascist ideology on the poor law abiding citizens of Greece? Judging by John Z’s comments, who appears to have a stronger grasp of the mongrel races that populate what people call the British Isles, I think Martin is Welsh. Nevertheless, he is definitely not coping which is evidenced by his reflexive “peasant” and other comments which have become so tiresome, boring, unoriginal and lacking in any academic rigour of any sort. The campus is also awash with vicious rumours which I happen to think are a little unfair but the mob always take it a little too far.

As for the Far Right in Greece. Spare us. It really is a poor excuse for a Far Right compared to the institutionalised Far Right of our beautiful neighbour Turkey and the weirdo-criminal-Far-whatever up north in Albania and Kosovo. Also, if one was to aggregate the damage done to private and public property in Athens and Thessaloniki over the last 15 years I think the Far Left would come out on top by a mile. Why is there no mention of their imposition of their Fascist ideology on the poor law abiding citizens of Greece?

]]> By: George calling for ZARDOZ HELP http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63024 George calling for ZARDOZ HELP Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:15:09 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63024 Diva, It looks like all the nationalists have taken over your site. With Cyngin, Against Comm, Herpes, and the various others, we are wondering what happened to the other posters. Mr. Zardoz used to be great at helping defend the kind hearted people of Greece, as well as Ellas Devil, etc. Where are all the non-nationalistic Greeks at? I"m sending a radar out to them. Zardoz, help we're being overwhelmed... Diva, It looks like all the nationalists have taken over your site. With Cyngin, Against Comm, Herpes, and the various others, we are wondering what happened to the other posters.

Mr. Zardoz used to be great at helping defend the kind hearted people of Greece, as well as Ellas Devil, etc.

Where are all the non-nationalistic Greeks at?

I”m sending a radar out to them.

Zardoz, help we’re being overwhelmed…

]]> By: Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63023 Cyngin Poppycock-Balderdash Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:16:37 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-63023 Yes Hermes. This is the type of functionality Martin speaks of. Or would that be..."doesn't speak of"? <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/brunowaterfield/feb08/mepfraud.htm/" rel="nofollow">The Telegraph</a> Yes Hermes. This is the type of functionality Martin speaks of. Or would that be…”doesn’t speak of”?

The Telegraph

]]> By: Hermes http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-62991 Hermes Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:51:36 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-62991 Ah, to live in a "functional" state like Britain, which is clever enough to send its cranks packing to foreign lands. Ah, to live in a “functional” state like Britain, which is clever enough to send its cranks packing to foreign lands.

]]> By: db0 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-62968 db0 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:14:32 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/2008/02/21/the-far-right-on-the-rise/#comment-62968 Also known as "ohbrotherism" (Ωχαδελφισμός). It is true and the unfortunate thing is that the worst these things get, the more people turn to the extreme right and assume that a mentality of "back to tradition", "it's all the migrant's fault" will make things better. This is the reason why the crypto-fascists of LAOS finally managed to enter the greek parliament. Also known as “ohbrotherism” (Ωχαδελφισμός). It is true and the unfortunate thing is that the worst these things get, the more people turn to the extreme right and assume that a mentality of “back to tradition”, “it’s all the migrant’s fault” will make things better. This is the reason why the crypto-fascists of LAOS finally managed to enter the greek parliament.

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