I’m *so* sorry. Outing you is just evil.

Diva, you know you have my support and my love. I can’t imagine what kind of low down dog would do something like that.

we all got your back, baby–in solidarity forever,
bfp

Well crap, DD. Anything I can do, you let me know.

For Hade’s sake, these people are disgusting, spineless thugs.

If you can’t play with the big dogs, go piss with the puppies.

This is a war Diva, a war which your side called for against those simply wishing to live in peace on their ancestral land without being disturbed by some human rights activists wet dreams (especially since you are a hypocrite who demonizes Greece, and ignores human right violations by Brits etc.)

In no way does anyone wish harm on you, your family, etc.

You were caught a long long time ago, did you know that? However, although your name has been circulating amongst your enemies in the real world for over a year now, NO HARM HAS COME TO YOU, and it will not come to you. And so you continue to demonize your enemies, but they are decent people with good hearts. This war is a war of words, not violence. VIOLENCE IS THE LAST RESORT OF THOSE THAT NO LONGER HAVE ARGUMENTS! It is YOUR SIDE that resorts to violence in the streets of Athens. IT IS YOU WHO DOES NOT ALLOW DEBATE ON THIS BLOG…so just let the people speak.

So, chill out, suck it up, and understand that nobody means you harm in any way. You are just more likley to get mugged by an illigal immigrant or gypsie than you are to get attacked by a son or daughter of Greece.

Dear Doogie dipshit:

Grow a spine and stop whining, you worthless piece of dumpster cheese. What you’re doing is harassment and intimidation, and frankly, you’re not coming out looking too well, my silly little inbred troll.

“Decent people with good hearts” don’t out their opponents in an attempt to silence them. I’m just saying, kiddo.

Run along now, the grownups are talking.

I’m so sorry, DD.

DD, I’m so sorry. Some people really are total slime molds.

Doogie: that’s just swell that you lot are just swell, but you know what, it only takes one nutjob to do something really fucked up with someone’s personal information, and guess what, sunshine? if you’re one of the ones circulating it? YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. So how about being a damn adult and doing the right thing, there?

Hey, had my attention brought to this site from Pandagon. Expect more of us to come over (I hope) and give you encouragement. Keep up the good work! Outing is a miserable tactic used by miserable people.

DD, I heard about you through Chris’s post and wanted to say I admire you for what you’ve done and you have my support. Looks like you have a lot of support, actually.

Doogie “12-year-old-mind”: There’s nothing noble or honorable or tough about what you’re doing. It’s the epitome of cowardice and bullying. If you had real arguments, you wouldn’t need to resort to hate speech and intimidation.

hola, DD. this is some bullshit. blackamazon pointed me here and i wanted to say i am with you on this. i will post on it, and if there’s anything else i can do, let me know. stay strong, hermana.

—Nez

*hug* If you need anything, shoot me an e-mail. You have my support and prayers.

Doogie Howser, how can you argue she does not have a leg to stand on when so-called “good people” are exploiting the fact that she shares her opinions online under a psuedonym? When you start crossing from refuting her points (and that’s if you can; from your insulting tone, it seems doubtful) to infringing on her privacy and safety, you’ve lost all legs of credibility.

*big hug* to you, DD. People who stand for what’s right are always targeted by low-lifes who benefit from the unjust status quo. I’m with you. Keep speaking out.

You’re doing good work DD; I often run across anti-Roma screeds in otherwise enlightened (sounding) writers who travel, and while it’s true that no one likes getting harassed by panhandlers and mugged, the Roma are a problem that Europe has created but refused to deal with. They are in the perpetual position of being kept out of society and then blamed for their outcast status.

At any rate, I hope you keep posting, that you don’t let yourself be silenced.

A fellow Vonnegut fan is never alone, you have a whole world -karass- of support. And Doogie I can tell you all about human rights abuses by Brits as I am one, but hey guess what? That has no relevance to justifying cowardly intimidation.

I support you and sympathize with your situation. Contrary thoughts and behavious is always taken to be morally/politically/racially motivated to the unthinking.

I want to say do not be intimidated, but not being in your situation that would be disingenious to say the best.

Keep up the good critical work is the best I can do.

So sorry to hear about your “outing. If there is anything I can do let me know. And a word to the Doogie and his mind numbingly dumb ilk.

The rest of the world is watching.

You have my warmth, my support, and my thanks.

This war is a war of words, not violence.

Releasing personal information to a world wide stage when the person does not want to be identified is violence, my friend.

they are decent people with good hearts.

Everyone has racism in them. Racist activists, however, are not decent people who do not have good hearts.

If it is a war of words, where is the intelligent discourse? All I’ve heard from the nationalist types is is the same typical blather that has been spewed for centuries, makes no sense, and doesn’t set the scene for intelligent debate.

DD and I don’t see eye to eye on every single issue, but we know how to debate an issue with each other intelligently, so we can at least understand each other’s point of view.

It is about time people all over the world opened their eyes, instead of letting all our dirty little secrets stay hidden. DeviousDiva brings Greece’s dirty little secrets to light. Why is that a problem?

Perhaps I don’t see this as “clearly” because I’m not Greek, but I don’t feel like her blog is anti-Hellenic in any way. She has chosen to bring out these things that happen in Greece because she is living in Greece. I’ve never gotten the feeling from her posts that she hates it here, or doesn’t like Greeks or the Greek way of life. A little reading comprehension and avoidance of “selective” reading goes a long way to prevent misunderstandings.

I know that if someone posts an intelligent, clear post without racial epithets or standard comebacks, she will never delete a comment of dissent. People will never completely agree with one another, but I think we have a good chance of at least understanding one another if we pay attention to other points of view, and respond appropriately with our own.

“Outing” her proves nothing, solves nothing. If you want to defend your side, do it the right way.

When they can’t win with ideas, they try to win with intimidation. What bullies.

Solidarity, etc.

And thanks for your insightful writing.

Doogie: publicizing personal contact information is an implicit threat and the act of a coward. People who care about ideas don’t care about the personal identity of people who disagree and certainly wouldn’t act to lift a veil of chosen anonymity. By doing that, though, the nationalists you run with reveal that they have no words, ideas, or arguments - just threats and perhaps the possibility of making good on those threats.

I’ve been tracked down by your kind. I’ve received threats, phone calls at work, phone calls at home, and packages in the mail from people who are too inept or cowardly to engage my arguments. I’m still here, though, and I hope DD will persevere as well. Opponents like you are the sick underbelly of humanity.

Just absolutely racist horseshit. For what it’s worth, we’re all with you, DD.

This war is a war of words, not violence.

No, this is symbolic and psychological violence.

In solidarity,
the other DD

Good luck to you DD. I’ve never read your blog before but I hate to see any blogger being terrorized (particularly when it’s due to misogynist and racist attitudes). It’s happening far too commonly, lately, and I think we all want it to stop.

I hope their pitiful attempts to cling to racism fail, and that greece moves on without them. This act against you is lower than low, and I wish you all future support for your writings.

hugs from me too. You have the right to express your opinions without fear of violent backlash from the stupid.

Speaking of, Doogie if you’re so goddamn macho about putting your neck out there, why are you still using an alias?

and it’s more than symbolic: again, it only takes one nutter to pick up on the hateful language and personal info and go do something concrete to take it into the area of literal violence. And people who release peoples’ personal info damn well know it. It’s a coward’s act. At minimum you’ve threatened the target; at “best” you’ve gotten some crazy to do your dirty work for you while your hands are clean. Well, fuck that shit.

>Perhaps I don’t see this as “clearly” because I’m not Greek, but I don’t feel like her blog is anti-Hellenic in any way.>

Judging from “Doogie’s” (yeah, RG has a good point as well) post, some people view any suggestion that anyone belonging to Their Tribe are less than “decent people with good hearts”–which includes documentation of discrimination, oppression, and violence done by Our Guys, -any- of Our Guys–as “anti-Us.”

which, well, there it is, isn’t it?

This is awful, DD.

Are you xenophobes proud? You’re hunting down and intimidating some woman and her family who have done nothing but suggested that some people are getting hurt and don’t deserve it? This is your expression of national pride? Your nation has better things to be proud of than its ability to scare someone who stands up for people you’d like to brush under the rug.

If this isn’t about violence and intimidation, Doogie and co., if you’re such unimpeachably good folks, why don’t you distribute your names and addresses to us as an act of good faith?

Solidarity, sistah.

Damn those racist bullies.

Hang in girl.

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We love you.

You and yours are in my heart. Stay strong for what you do is the right thing and you inspire others. Your community is large and it’s growing thanks to you. We need your voice. Take courage.

That’s an amazing series on the Roma, DD. I’ve not read it all, but I do intend to come back and do so.

Racists and xenophobes (and cowards), unfortunately, appear to be the same the world over, with just the object of the hate changing from place to place.

I admire your bravery in blogging about issues that people (obviously) aren’t comfortable looking at. Don’t let the bastards grind you down, and know that your courage likely helps others to find their own.

DD my heart and thoughts go out to you and your family. This is such shameful and horrendous behaviour. This is so horrible, I just don’t know what to say!

You’ve got my sympathy and support. You wrote in a very good cause.

DD, hang in there. Do whatever you need to do to protect yourself and your family, but I hope you feel able to keep speaking truth to power.

:: clenched fist in solidarity ::

you are doing important work. greece … humanity owes you a debt of gratitude.

DD,

these racist dickwads act like this because they know their reign has come to an end. Not too long ago, these tactics could effectively be used to prevent the rest of the world from finding out the truth. Now, there are millions of people around the world who refuse to be intimidated by these small-minded thugs. Posting your information on line only makes even more of us determined to post about these issues that you expose, DD.

The really ridiculous part about idiots like “Dog-brain Howzer” is that they are so painfully ignorant. If they had the comprehension level higher than that of a jar of mayonaise, they’d know that Greece has ALWAYS been a land of immigrants. Everyone who lives in Greece is the product of immigration. That’s just basic information that any primary school student with a encyclopedia would know. Now, we know these folks are not an especially educated lot but you’d think they’d at least be smart enough to keep quiet so as to keep from exposing their stupidity to the entire world.

Every time I encounter a person (and I do use the word person loosely here) like them, I can’t help but laugh inside because unless their children all grow up and in-breed with their siblings, they’ll eventually end up with families that look just like ours.

Devious Diva and Panioyits Dimatras, can you please comment on this human rights campaign?

http://www.isxys.org/famagusta/

Otherwise, “The only thing necessary for the persistence of evil is for enough good people to do nothing.”

I have never read your blog before, but followed links here, and I am so sorry you have to deal with this. My blog doesn’t have many readers, so I am not sure how much help it will be, but I posted about this. Know that there many many more people on your side than those who are against you.

*raised fist of solidarity*

Thank you for taking a stand against the putrid racists, DD. I’m here to tell you I’m backing your six.

Wow, it’s great to see so many voices of support for this blog! As a Greek citizen and resident of Athens, I wholeheartedly support deviousdiva’s right to say the things that need saying and to be vocal in the fight against racism, intolerance and indifference. It’s great to see so many allies from abroad, I wish there were more here at home. Greece is a small country - sometimes we think of it as a village - and everyone in Athens is separated by only two or three degrees; when one person stands up and shouts out uncomfortable truths, they expose themselves in a close, intimate way. If deviousdiva is feeling the heat, there is nothing abstract and distant about it. It’s important for her and all Greek progressives to know that there is support and solidarity out there.

I’m so sorry. This stinks.

(And again, predictably, the abusers show up to claim their abuse and threats are “free speech”.)

I can understand and empathize with your concern via a vis your family and friends. Please know that you have supporters from as far away as Canada.

Stay safe and keep your spirits up, DD.
You have done important work and those fuckers have no ground to stand on over this.

So they sure showed you eh? Not sure exactly what they showed you mind.

What is with the rush to expose all the gory details of peoples lives? What does it prove? AHA I know your name I win…um ya ok.

This is nothing more than the internet equivalent of a temper tantrum by people who have come to the battle of wits unarmed.

Hi, saw this at loxias’ and made me wonder:
a) if u didn’t do a good job, they wouldn’t be reacting
b) as if all those people descend from Plato and Aristotle.
c) it takes 1 stupid man to scare 100 logically-thinking people; don’t give up.

I’m so sorry you have this nonsense in your life. What’s you’re doing is right and important.

It’s horrible! I really hope nothing else happens because of it - what has happened so far is already violent, as someone already said upthread.

I loved your Roma diaries when you posted them over on the Eurotrib. Sorry to hear that some small minded jerks have tried to intimidate you.

So, so sorry. This is awful, plain and simple. I wish there was something I could do to help.

Oh DD, I’m so sorry to hear about this.

*hugs*

Please email me or hit me up on IM. I’ll be away of the day today, though.

I’m so sorry to hear about this. I’m a random femblogger that found your site and heard about this through Sylvia. I hope that this gets resolved soon and those assholes leave you alone.

It’s been a long time since I last cruised by, DD, but I read about the intimidation campaign and just wanted to add my voice in support.

The hypocrisy of Doogie’s “oh but nothing will happen to you wink wink” handwashing disgusts me.

DD, I learned of your situation from Lindsay’s blog. This disturbing internet harassment must stop. Please accept these words of friendship, and keep in mind that there is also a community of bloggers who support you. Hang in there.

I just spent several weeks in Greece during which I was horrified and disgusted by the casual racism on display there against the Roma, Albanians, and other immigrants. Please do not let the cowards who would like to silence you win. Greece needs people like you if it has any hope of moving into the future instead of being endlessly and fruitlessly consumed with the traumas of its past. Your courage and dedication in exposing the dirty reality of the discrimination and hatred that many immigrants face are in line with the best and brightest traditions of Greece. As a Greek citizen, I salute you and support you - you are NOT alone.

DD, my blog would be extremely grateful - if you have the energy and inclination after everything you are going through - for any comments you would care to share regarding women’s voices in the blogosphere and the harassment of women bloggers. My blog is sponsoring a Take Back the Blog! virtual march or “blogswarm” on April 28th. It would be an honor for us to receive the benefit of your experiences and insights, to the extent you are inclined and comfortable sharing those experiences.

Many thanks, Bruce Godfrey, Crablaw Maryland Weekly

What DD said, “No, this is symbolic and psychological violence.”

I hope all is well, and that you’re hanging in Devious Diva. I’m a little late due to not participating in bloglife lately, but if there is anything i can do, put me on your list of people to contact via email to help get the word out, fend off attackers, whatever.

That’s horrible, DD. You have a lot of supporters.

What you’re going through is horrible; I hope it is at least some consolation that the issue behind it all, the problems faced by the Roma in Greece, is now getting much wider coverage than it might otherwise have received.

I’m really sorry, DD. Don’t worry, you have the support of many.

xxx

I have only been to Greece once and didn’t particularly like it. I’m married to a Greek so I suspect i’ll have to go again sometime. My bad experience, I had a camera stolen from by backpack while getting on a bus in Athens. When I told my mother-in-law, she said “oh it was Albanians”. I hated that, we have a good Albanian/Greek friend here who never hesitates to check up on MIL when he goes and brings her stuff from us, but she can’t shake that racism, sad really…ciao
Keep blogging, don’t let the bastards get you down.

I clicked over from belledame’s blog.

I don’t know you and don’t know even if I agree with what you’ve said that raises these folks’ wrath, but us agreeing is really not important.

What is important is that I support your right to your opinion, and think that “outing” someone is, as others have said, cowardly.

However, I’ll offer this thought from my lesbian/professor/opinionated woman prospective: in a way, being public/open/out (while not your first choice, I know), can be a postive thing.

Intellectually, you have had some doors opened for you. I made the decision as a “baby teaching assistant” to not make a secret of my sexual orientation because I felt that if I treated it as something to be ashamed of, others could use it to shame me. Don’t be ashamed of what you believe! And now, perhaps, the opportunities will arise for you to share this story/beliefs with an even greater audience.

As for your safety, there is also a positive: you now have a kind of protection in people knowing who you are in real life, people who can look out for you and support you. If something happens to an anonymous person, no one really knows why or who to look at…in a way, the people who have “outted” you have put themselves have “outted” themselves as well should any IRL harrassment of you or your property occur.

I hope I don’t come across as “Mary Sunshine” here: I would never mean to dismiss what has happened to you. I just believe something good will come out of it.

I surfed in from Pandagon. Sorry to hear that these hateful cretins are trying to scare you into silence. Don’t let the bastards grind you down, DD.

Keeping you in my thoughts. I hope the stories that these spiteful types are trying to keep quiet get splashed over front pages all over the world.

Another blogger giving you a salute from Australia’s shores. Keep your head up!

Hugs, from a Quaker Agitator reader.

I come in here late, but hugs to you. And to the bold internet warriors who can’t stand the truth about their country (not to mention doing something to change it), bite my ass.

Keep up the good work. Don’t know that my support is worth much; but you have it.

Don’t let the bastards get you down! Keep us informed if there’s anything we can do to help out.

I really feel for you. I really admire your no nonsense style and it hurts me that certain people react in this way. Allthough they may consider themselves patriots, they are diminishing Greece by their actions. Though you do not consider yourself Greek, what you are doing is providing a vital service not only for those getting the worst deal out of the current situation in the country but for Greece itself.

A Pandagon reader here to show solidarity. Like most people said, don’t let the jerks stop you.

I had spent a lot of time trying to figure out the causes of racism, bigotry, religious fanatism etc in greek public discourse.
I ended up with school, the media, and the general political unwillingness to do something about it.
Then I told myself that it’s too early for greece to reach the levels of political correctness and tolerance of other countries, since we haven’t been living in a multicultural society for long enough.
I also comforted myself thinking that the EU will slowly but steadily help change things.
I guess this was my way of dissmissing any responsibility I may have as a greek citizen.
It took listening to you, a “stranger”, for my excuses to suddenly sound pathetic.
Thank you for giving me a fresh perspective on greekness and otherness…

Your site is wonderful. I relate totally to you and your comments. I have now 3 sons. Two are Mexican, one of those is ‘Moreno’ in other words he is a little coffee coloured, the other is white. Now I have an Ethiopian son. Can you imagine the comments I get when we go somewhere with them?

Honestly I do not see colour. People sometimes do not understand that comment. But I see people, I see a soul a person. It matters not their physical attributes. It is their inner self that I see. I know, I hurt when they are insulted, the whispers, the comments, the out and out disparaging remarks, heartless, hurtful, bigoted. I absorb most, I try to protect my sons from these, but I cannot be everywhere with them. Most who read this blog have no real life experience of the hurt discrimination really inflicts. Not just the overt, brutalization of ones life, the violation of ones space and heart and soul. But the quiet, behind your back undermining that goes on, over and over again.

I am 51 and writing this to express my feelings brings tears to my eyes because I am helpless to protect my own children from this hatred.

Even as I write this my ADSL went down it feels like a sign another attach, but it is not, it is coincidence, but how do I, how can I begin to explain how ever that feels like an attack? That is how bad it gets!

I think it was Elaine earlier this week said ‘Rod is so proud of his new son.’ YES I AM. I love my son, I will never call him my ‘adopted’ son, he is just plain and simple MY SON. We are different in many ways him and I but he loves the same, feels the same and is vulnerable just the same. But above all he is just wonderful.

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Hey DD - I’m glad you blog and I am sorry that you have been outed. You are in my thoughts and I hope you are doing okay.

I was truly touched by your post.
I see no good by this internet attack. Is horrible way to get harm innocent people.
I only wish you and your family safety.
It truly sad to know someone has put your family at risk.
Take care,
all the best, Holly D

Came here via Mind the Gap, where I usually lurk. You have my support, for what it’s worth. Do whatever you have to do to feel safe!

@doogie a$$hat: You and your racist scoundrel fellows make me feel ashamed and embarrassed to be a greek. Shame on you. You make the name of greek sound like a curse. And if I had a brother like you, I would renounce him. Thankfully, you’re not.
deviousdiva: Take care and don’t let the bastards run you down!

You have my support, Diva.
So sorry for what you’re going thru.

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HANG IN THERE and I hope the pain and hurt from these wicked racists will pass.
In solidarity

Hahahaha

More melodramatic histrionics. The more things change the more they stay the same…apparently.

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If you want a serious answer/response, please do not call us barbarians…