Barometer
Published by deviousdiva January 25th, 2007 in Personal.I have to admit, I find surveys fascinating but I am very wary of statistics. As regular readers here know, I have had statistics thrown in my face since I started this blog. All of them from bigots, racists and self-professed nationalists. The lefties like me, tend to shy away from them because they can be so divisive. Having stated that, I do think the Eurobarometer is an INDICATION of what Europeans think and feel, but is NOT the final word. Human beings are far more complicated than ten questions on a piece of paper !
So, now I indulge my fascination (having NEVER been asked to take part in one!)
There are four pages of results for Greece with two questions on each. I will post one question per day (hopefully) with my comments…
Page 1.
Question 1:
Do you have friends or acquaintances who are..?
a: Of a different religion or have different beliefs than you
b: People of an ethnic origin different from yours
c: Disabled
d: Homosexual
e: Roma
The results (with the European average in brackets):
a: 37% (62%)
b: 51% (55%)
c: 36% (55%)
d: 16% (35%)
e: 10% (12%)
My thoughts:
(b) I am happy to see a “closing of the gap” (between Greece and other Europeans countries) of people who have friends/acquaintances of a different ethnic origins.
Why ?
Because it’s only by communicating and dialogue and, in the end, forming friendships, that we come to know each other.
Greece was a self-proclaimed homogenous society until fairly recently ( no longer an excuse) so I take this survey as a sign that the society is changing and that people are changing too. I refer back to (a still relevant) post of mine A Neighborhood Story and A Neighborhood Story 2, because we (my family) were some of the first obviously “foreign” people around my little neck of the woods and I believe our experience here has had a positive effect on us and our neighbors. This may sound arrogant but let me explain… for some of my Greek friends (real friends I should add), we were their first contact with foreigners. And they were my first contact with people that were foreigners to me. I had no Greek friends in London!
Overwhelmingly, the experience has been positive with few lows along the way. So yes, for this I am happy.
I am disturbed by ALL the other answers. I have asked myself for years about my own prejudices and my own racism ( yeah, just because I am mixed race, it doesn’t give me a “get out of prejudice free card” but I do believe that Greece is lagging in the discussion of these issues.
(a) Religion is a major sticking point here in Greece (that could be a whole post on its own). It is assumed that everyone is Greek Orthodox even though this is not true). Just to put a spanner in the works (and probably open up another can of worms) I think the Church and State should separate. The Church has enormous power here and it is not in the best interest of the citizens of Greece. I have total respect for those who have chosen their religion, through searching and thought, but I find indoctrination of children ( or anyone) quite sick. I find it strange that friends who have no religious beliefs, still baptise their children or get married in church, because that is what is done here. I get angry that priests expect money for providing a “good” religious service as opposed to a rushed, meaningless one.
(c) Disability issues. There is a big enough difference between the European average and the Greek response to be worrying. I believe that here in Greece, disabled people are hidden from society on the whole and that there are very little effort to enable them to be visible, active and vocal. I know nothing about the activism of the disabled community in Greece and would greatly appreciate any feedback.
(d) Homosexuality. I have to say, I am not surprised by the result here. Sad as that is. I will throw out a question… How can the Lesbian and Gay community even begin discussions here in Greece when it is perfectly OK for leaders of the state and church to condemn them ? While there are discussions elsewhere in the world about gay marriage, it seems that Greece is stuck on the first rung of the ladder: That homosexuality is wrong and that’s that….
(e) Roma. Well. You’ve read my posts. Roma people are the most vilified people in Europe and I am (sadly) not all shocked that only 12% in Europe could count any Roma among their friends/acquaintances. Do I have any in my parea? (group of friends?) NO. Not that I know of. I wish I could say otherwise but that would be a lie. The Roma people are marginalised and separated from the rest of the population and it is hard (almost impossible) to actually meet on a social and equal level. I have no doubt that given the opportunity we would find common ground, interests and friendships but how to achieve that is the question.
Interesting stuff and open for discussion…..
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Well, I am thankful to say I have friends and acquaintances in all categories except disabled, although my homosexual friends are back in the U.S. Since I’m disabled myself maybe that one doesn’t count, but really, I’d like to see more activism in that area here - and I’d be interested in getting involved if there was any.
The numbers are better than I would have expected overall, actually, but Greece - and the world - still has a long way to go for tolerance.
You are so right, Mel. The world has
If I come across any activism for disabled rights/activism, I’ll let you know. (and visa versa?)
Thanks DD. Of course I’ll let you know.