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		<title>By: Hephaestos</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>Hephaestos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 03:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zardoz

the past is important 
because it informs the present and future
the future is important because it informs the present and past

.........when we read we speak to our dead people

time is almost circular
there is no end point nor beginning
time is the essence of being

I AM AN AQUARIAN 

.........and I do not belong to any secret organisations....CRAIG

but i do not believe 
in HOCUS POCUS 
it shows a loss of nerve in.......

OUR ABILITY TO REASON AND BE TRULY HUMAN</description>
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<p>Zardoz</p>
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<p>the past is important<br />
because it informs the present and future<br />
the future is important because it informs the present and past</p>
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<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;when we read we speak to our dead people</p>
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<p>time is almost circular<br />
there is no end point nor beginning<br />
time is the essence of being</p>
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<p>I AM AN AQUARIAN </p>
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<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and I do not belong to any secret organisations&#8230;.CRAIG</p>
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<p>but i do not believe<br />
in HOCUS POCUS<br />
it shows a loss of nerve in&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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<p>OUR ABILITY TO REASON AND BE TRULY HUMAN
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		<title>By: zardoz</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>zardoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hephastos
 my obtuse wtiting style takes more time 
and orama , than the katevata sentonia you serve 

so if i have to live with you ,,
.........and your 20,000 word per page walls.

you can live with my 700 word oratory on a blog.


IF ........WE CAN FIND A WAY TO SPEAK OF SOLUTIONS...?
BECAUSE IF WE STAY IN THE PAST,,,
WE CAN ONLY BE DIVIDED..
BECAUSE ITS THE SAME COIN DIFFERENT SIDES...

SO CHOOSE YOURE FUTURE ........UNITED WE STAND

DIVIDED WE HAVE NO FUTURE TO GIVE TO NEXT GENERATION.




BY THE WAY ,,, ARE YOU A LEO..or a LIBRA .?  astrologically speaking</description>
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<p>hephastos<br />
 my obtuse wtiting style takes more time<br />
and orama , than the katevata sentonia you serve </p>
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<p>so if i have to live with you ,,<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and your 20,000 word per page walls.</p>
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<p>you can live with my 700 word oratory on a blog.</p>
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<p>IF &#8230;&#8230;..WE CAN FIND A WAY TO SPEAK OF SOLUTIONS&#8230;?<br />
BECAUSE IF WE STAY IN THE PAST,,,<br />
WE CAN ONLY BE DIVIDED..<br />
BECAUSE ITS THE SAME COIN DIFFERENT SIDES&#8230;</p>
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<p>SO CHOOSE YOURE FUTURE &#8230;&#8230;..UNITED WE STAND</p>
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<p>DIVIDED WE HAVE NO FUTURE TO GIVE TO NEXT GENERATION.</p>
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<p>BY THE WAY ,,, ARE YOU A LEO..or a LIBRA .?  astrologically speaking
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		<title>By: Hephaestos</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Hephaestos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 04:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zardoz, your posts might be interesting if you stopped the pretence of using this obtuse writing style.</description>
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<p>Zardoz, your posts might be interesting if you stopped the pretence of using this obtuse writing style.
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		<title>By: zardoz</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1620</link>
		<dc:creator>zardoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously your neither fair nor balanced.....!

point one .
the turkish goverment has never let turks get past them. period
THEY USUALL STRUT IN WITH PASSPORT AND AIRFARE.

or with parachute ,as in CYPRUS,,(and we know whos fault that one is)

so its not the turks with the problem .....!

BECAUSE  WHO GETS PAST ,?,,

,PUSHED     IN   I   WOULD SAY.! 

.........armenians ,,yes.
.........................kurds,,yes 
..............................and everyone  else coming for a better future from bangladesh to syria to iran to pakistan , since the early seveties. 

to get away from famine and poverty ,plus the albanians that were imported by the right wing  greek POLITICIANS seeking a cheap labor force ,,,,,ect ,, 

statistically theres over 1,500,000
non greeks living in greece at this time .


did this leftie bloggie let them in,,,,boohooboohoo.
I THINK NOT .  (unfair and unbalanced)


Of course the responsibility of having all these people here is 
greece's and the european countries problem.
 REMEMBER FRANCE AND THE YOUTH BURNING EVERYTHING....
THINK ITS ONLY THE LEFT'S PROBLEM .................
..............................................think again...(balanced)


IF THE RIGHT WAS IN CHARGE IN EUROPE  FROM THE SECOND WORLD WAR 
UP TO NOW ,, HOW DID THEY ALL GET PAST'EM.....XMMMMMM..?
 
ITS OUR PROBLEM ,all of us ,, ITS GREECES FAULT. period

BUT REALLY WHAT KINDA PROBLEM IS IT ,,?

why do these people leave their country ,,?
why are their countries poor ....?
whose fault is that ........................?
are we greeks having DEJAVU ...,?
didnt we seek solutions away from our country ?
did they drown us.coming over .?
to australia ,america ,?
did we really solve anything ,,or are we still in ball and chains..?



and think its the albanians fault , the blacks fault ,,whoever's fault
the turks fault ,,   no its the left's fault , for being social wimps..?
should we pick up our guns and shoot all the africans ??
coming in  .will that solve it.....?
should we kill all the turks pushing them in,,will that solve it ..?
how about the syrians ???
mass murder the pakistanis ???  will that solve it??
why take it to the UN whose new general secretary 
is an asian businessman working for american conglomaretes.
or to our girl president at the UN ,,NTORA  , whose daddy owns 
1/10 of downtown paris and makes his money from KRUP AND THYSSEN?(ARMS AND CHEMICAL SUPERCOMPANIES)

xmm too much mayhem. NOT ENOYGH POLITICAL CLOUT.

XM somethin simple ,,,,

maybe breed the great white shark in the aegean..?
and train them to attack anything thats in a boat
 and doesnt speak greek.!

OR HOW ABOUT 

answer no 1) 
lets mine the borders and machine gun anyone crossing over.
answer no 2)
lets attack the turks because there letting everyone in .

how about these solutions,,?


  the situation is neither some leftie bloggers fault nor yours
personally , if you think this is what im saying 

its all our fault.. its the greek peoples fault ..
for letting our democracy in the hands of 
 THE PRICKLESS POLITICIANS THAT ARE 
REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR MALARCHY AND IRESPONSIBILITY.
and in thinking world famine isnt going to come to my door,,?
poverty can never come to my door....?

and you aint seen nothin , yet till you see the chinese 
come in like the locust and and youll see the island of crete 
disappear in ten years ,,

think im joking huh..........think about it ,,

were doing nothin to save our planet , and the people on it

and the imperialsts americans are unleashing the chinese
on europe ,, as if europe had solved  the fleeing africans problem ?


  be fair ,,,point out  ,, whos fault it is ,,if you wanna be called fair .!

and consider all the solutions ,, for all 

WE WILL NEVER BE THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE , 1990.

------------END STORY


and if theres truth to something ,its that the greek coast guard
is overworked 
underpaid , doesnt have manpower ,,to  guard everything
has to play a oidipus role ,,
has to pay the price of greek  political and world stupidity
by going off the deep end 
thinking in the vastness of the deep sea , THEY can make policy
and play god , this as hephastos has said is not a greek .
"a greek is filoxenos and with a big heart for all peoples."


youre mad now ,, but why ?

because it cant happen in greece ,,??

why..?  whats the  difference from the americans
 kickinthe shit out of the iranians,, 
or the guadanamo guards torturing people.

is the education and fear different ..?

do we as greeks have politics and politicians ,
that have the same opinion as BUSH  
"capture torture ,, execute ,, just in case their terrorists
or i shit in my pants because their a different color or poor ..?
so use preemptive strikes 
and drown some of them JUST TO QUELL WHOSE FEARS ????

AND THE RICH GET RICHER ,,,,ON OUR STUPIDITY
AND GOING AT EACH OTHER THROATS ,, 
BECAUSE ITS THE LEFT AND RIGHT FAULTS.

TECHNICAL BARRICADES AND LOTS OF SMOKE 

NOT ME SISTER .

GET OVER THEM .......SUPPOSEDLY FAIR AND BALANCED. 


AS TO BALANCED ,,SORRY BUT YOURE LOPSIDED.

THINK IT OVER 

P.S.
BECAUSE GREECE HAD A HAND IN STARTING THIS.!
WANNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY 
AND SOLVE ,,,THE PROBLEM 

OR HIDE IN A SHELL ACCUSING 
ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM 
WE DIDNT START IT..   NIAH NIAH NIAHH NIAHH</description>
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<p>obviously your neither fair nor balanced&#8230;..!</p>
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<p>point one .<br />
the turkish goverment has never let turks get past them. period<br />
THEY USUALL STRUT IN WITH PASSPORT AND AIRFARE.</p>
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<p>or with parachute ,as in CYPRUS,,(and we know whos fault that one is)</p>
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<p>so its not the turks with the problem &#8230;..!</p>
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<p>BECAUSE  WHO GETS PAST ,?,,</p>
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<p>,PUSHED     IN   I   WOULD SAY.! </p>
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<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;armenians ,,yes.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.kurds,,yes<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and everyone  else coming for a better future from bangladesh to syria to iran to pakistan , since the early seveties. </p>
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<p>to get away from famine and poverty ,plus the albanians that were imported by the right wing  greek POLITICIANS seeking a cheap labor force ,,,,,ect ,, </p>
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<p>statistically theres over 1,500,000<br />
non greeks living in greece at this time .</p>
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<p>did this leftie bloggie let them in,,,,boohooboohoo.<br />
I THINK NOT .  (unfair and unbalanced)</p>
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<p>Of course the responsibility of having all these people here is<br />
greece&#8217;s and the european countries problem.<br />
 REMEMBER FRANCE AND THE YOUTH BURNING EVERYTHING&#8230;.<br />
THINK ITS ONLY THE LEFT&#8217;S PROBLEM &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.think again&#8230;(balanced)</p>
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<p>IF THE RIGHT WAS IN CHARGE IN EUROPE  FROM THE SECOND WORLD WAR<br />
UP TO NOW ,, HOW DID THEY ALL GET PAST&#8217;EM&#8230;..XMMMMMM..?</p>
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<p>ITS OUR PROBLEM ,all of us ,, ITS GREECES FAULT. period</p>
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<p>BUT REALLY WHAT KINDA PROBLEM IS IT ,,?</p>
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<p>why do these people leave their country ,,?<br />
why are their countries poor &#8230;.?<br />
whose fault is that &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?<br />
are we greeks having DEJAVU &#8230;,?<br />
didnt we seek solutions away from our country ?<br />
did they drown us.coming over .?<br />
to australia ,america ,?<br />
did we really solve anything ,,or are we still in ball and chains..?</p>
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<p>and think its the albanians fault , the blacks fault ,,whoever&#8217;s fault<br />
the turks fault ,,   no its the left&#8217;s fault , for being social wimps..?<br />
should we pick up our guns and shoot all the africans ??<br />
coming in  .will that solve it&#8230;..?<br />
should we kill all the turks pushing them in,,will that solve it ..?<br />
how about the syrians ???<br />
mass murder the pakistanis ???  will that solve it??<br />
why take it to the UN whose new general secretary<br />
is an asian businessman working for american conglomaretes.<br />
or to our girl president at the UN ,,NTORA  , whose daddy owns<br />
1/10 of downtown paris and makes his money from KRUP AND THYSSEN?(ARMS AND CHEMICAL SUPERCOMPANIES)</p>
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<p>xmm too much mayhem. NOT ENOYGH POLITICAL CLOUT.</p>
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<p>XM somethin simple ,,,,</p>
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<p>maybe breed the great white shark in the aegean..?<br />
and train them to attack anything thats in a boat<br />
 and doesnt speak greek.!</p>
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<p>OR HOW ABOUT </p>
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<p>answer no 1)<br />
lets mine the borders and machine gun anyone crossing over.<br />
answer no 2)<br />
lets attack the turks because there letting everyone in .</p>
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<p>how about these solutions,,?</p>
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<p>  the situation is neither some leftie bloggers fault nor yours<br />
personally , if you think this is what im saying </p>
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<p>its all our fault.. its the greek peoples fault ..<br />
for letting our democracy in the hands of<br />
 THE PRICKLESS POLITICIANS THAT ARE<br />
REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR MALARCHY AND IRESPONSIBILITY.<br />
and in thinking world famine isnt going to come to my door,,?<br />
poverty can never come to my door&#8230;.?</p>
</div>
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<p>and you aint seen nothin , yet till you see the chinese<br />
come in like the locust and and youll see the island of crete<br />
disappear in ten years ,,</p>
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<p>think im joking huh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.think about it ,,</p>
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<p>were doing nothin to save our planet , and the people on it</p>
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<p>and the imperialsts americans are unleashing the chinese<br />
on europe ,, as if europe had solved  the fleeing africans problem ?</p>
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<p>  be fair ,,,point out  ,, whos fault it is ,,if you wanna be called fair .!</p>
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<p>and consider all the solutions ,, for all </p>
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<p>WE WILL NEVER BE THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE , 1990.</p>
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<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;END STORY</p>
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<p>and if theres truth to something ,its that the greek coast guard<br />
is overworked<br />
underpaid , doesnt have manpower ,,to  guard everything<br />
has to play a oidipus role ,,<br />
has to pay the price of greek  political and world stupidity<br />
by going off the deep end<br />
thinking in the vastness of the deep sea , THEY can make policy<br />
and play god , this as hephastos has said is not a greek .<br />
&#8220;a greek is filoxenos and with a big heart for all peoples.&#8221;</p>
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<p>youre mad now ,, but why ?</p>
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<p>because it cant happen in greece ,,??</p>
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<p>why..?  whats the  difference from the americans<br />
 kickinthe shit out of the iranians,,<br />
or the guadanamo guards torturing people.</p>
</div>
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<p>is the education and fear different ..?</p>
</div>
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<p>do we as greeks have politics and politicians ,<br />
that have the same opinion as BUSH<br />
&#8220;capture torture ,, execute ,, just in case their terrorists<br />
or i shit in my pants because their a different color or poor ..?<br />
so use preemptive strikes<br />
and drown some of them JUST TO QUELL WHOSE FEARS ????</p>
</div>
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<p>AND THE RICH GET RICHER ,,,,ON OUR STUPIDITY<br />
AND GOING AT EACH OTHER THROATS ,,<br />
BECAUSE ITS THE LEFT AND RIGHT FAULTS.</p>
</div>
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<p>TECHNICAL BARRICADES AND LOTS OF SMOKE </p>
</div>
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<p>NOT ME SISTER .</p>
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<p>GET OVER THEM &#8230;&#8230;.SUPPOSEDLY FAIR AND BALANCED. </p>
</div>
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<p>AS TO BALANCED ,,SORRY BUT YOURE LOPSIDED.</p>
</div>
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<p>THINK IT OVER </p>
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<p>P.S.<br />
BECAUSE GREECE HAD A HAND IN STARTING THIS.!<br />
WANNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY<br />
AND SOLVE ,,,THE PROBLEM </p>
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<p>OR HIDE IN A SHELL ACCUSING<br />
ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM<br />
WE DIDNT START IT..   NIAH NIAH NIAHH NIAHH
</p>
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		<title>By: Bandwagon</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandwagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Turkey's not the problem.

It's America.  Yeah, America is causing the problem. 

Hey everybody, look at me, I'm cool!! 

I can criticize America now and people will like me!

Yippee!</description>
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<p>Hey, Turkey&#8217;s not the problem.</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s America.  Yeah, America is causing the problem. </p>
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<div title='Click to quote this paragraph' class='clickquote'>
<p>Hey everybody, look at me, I&#8217;m cool!! </p>
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<p>I can criticize America now and people will like me!</p>
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<p>Yippee!
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		<title>By: FairAndBalanced</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>FairAndBalanced</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's another side of the story, and an important one.

As terrible as the fate of these people was (and I agree with you, it should never have happened), why do left-wing commentators like you refuse to focus on the governments (such as Turkey's) which create the appalling conditions that cause these people to want to leave in the first place?

Greece did not create the political, economic, and social terrors which made these people flee; it has no predisposed emnity towards these people (unlike those people's own governments), it is merely trying to keep its borders secure.

If you really want to solve this, you have to focus pressure on those countries causing the problem.

Greece is not causing the problem.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s another side of the story, and an important one.</p>
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<p>As terrible as the fate of these people was (and I agree with you, it should never have happened), why do left-wing commentators like you refuse to focus on the governments (such as Turkey&#8217;s) which create the appalling conditions that cause these people to want to leave in the first place?</p>
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<p>Greece did not create the political, economic, and social terrors which made these people flee; it has no predisposed emnity towards these people (unlike those people&#8217;s own governments), it is merely trying to keep its borders secure.</p>
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<p>If you really want to solve this, you have to focus pressure on those countries causing the problem.</p>
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<p>Greece is not causing the problem.
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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1613</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FairAndBalanced. If you wish to be accurate rather than clutch at straws, six people were DROWNED not "possibly drowned". The question is whether they were thrown into the sea by the Greek coastguards or not. 

Yes, that is another side of the story, about the Turkish government,  but the post is not about that.</description>
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<p>FairAndBalanced. If you wish to be accurate rather than clutch at straws, six people were DROWNED not &#8220;possibly drowned&#8221;. The question is whether they were thrown into the sea by the Greek coastguards or not. </p>
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<p>Yes, that is another side of the story, about the Turkish government,  but the post is not about that.
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		<title>By: FairAndBalanced</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1611</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, your headline is "Drowned", not "Possible Drownings", so you're giving the impression that you want to believe those allegations.

Also, Turkey and Greece have entered into a bilateral agreement on this issue; why hasn't the Turkish government done more to prevent people smugglings on its side?

That's a side of this story that deserves attention, too.</description>
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<p>Well, your headline is &#8220;Drowned&#8221;, not &#8220;Possible Drownings&#8221;, so you&#8217;re giving the impression that you want to believe those allegations.</p>
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<p>Also, Turkey and Greece have entered into a bilateral agreement on this issue; why hasn&#8217;t the Turkish government done more to prevent people smugglings on its side?</p>
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<p>That&#8217;s a side of this story that deserves attention, too.
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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1596</link>
		<dc:creator>deviousdiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did. I posted links to 6 different articles and I also said in the original post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"The Greek foreign and merchant marine ministries said they had no knowledge of the incident"
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and 

&lt;blockquote&gt;"I just want to reiterate that this incident has NOT been verified yet"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As far as you are concerned, I am wrong whatever I say or do.</description>
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<p>I did. I posted links to 6 different articles and I also said in the original post:</p>
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<blockquote>&#8220;The Greek foreign and merchant marine ministries said they had no knowledge of the incident&#8221;
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<p>and </p>
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<blockquote>&#8220;I just want to reiterate that this incident has NOT been verified yet&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p>As far as you are concerned, I am wrong whatever I say or do.
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		<title>By: Hephaestos</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1595</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greek authorities have denied the accusations. Please cover the full story.</description>
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<p>Greek authorities have denied the accusations. Please cover the full story.
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		<title>By: JustMe</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1593</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my gosh. this european immigration thing is being handled so poorly. 
thank you for continuing to write, i really appreciate it, we need voices like yours, depsite the trolls.
i've been gone for awhile, so this is a bit late, but am glad to see that you didn't stop blogging.</description>
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<p>oh my gosh. this european immigration thing is being handled so poorly.<br />
thank you for continuing to write, i really appreciate it, we need voices like yours, depsite the trolls.<br />
i&#8217;ve been gone for awhile, so this is a bit late, but am glad to see that you didn&#8217;t stop blogging.
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		<title>By: melusina</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1592</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I certainly hope it isn't true, although I haven't seen a story that offers real proof yet.</description>
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<p>Well, I certainly hope it isn&#8217;t true, although I haven&#8217;t seen a story that offers real proof yet.
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/09/28/drowned/#comment-1589</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.turkishweekly.net also has articles confirming this story, as well as Headline News Greece.  It is now an international story.</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.turkishweekly.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.turkishweekly.net</a> also has articles confirming this story, as well as Headline News Greece.  It is now an international story.
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