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		<title>By: Albanian girl</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-20215</link>
		<dc:creator>Albanian girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Im an albanian girl, and have to say that I am very proud to see that someone is trying to make a change in this crazy world. Right now i dont live in albanian/kosovo but my visits to Kosovo maked me feel very bad. I saw so many diskriminations against the roma people, especilly in my hometown. I thought the albanian learnd a lesson when they got diskriminated by the serbian people but fourtinitly not. When you talk about the kids begging for money or food , i rekognize my self. I saw so many kids in Kosovo begging for food and the owners just throw them our. Its like no one does a thing to make theire life better. I think this is a huge problem. I really hope that theire situation will change for something better.</description>
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<p>Hi<br />
Im an albanian girl, and have to say that I am very proud to see that someone is trying to make a change in this crazy world. Right now i dont live in albanian/kosovo but my visits to Kosovo maked me feel very bad. I saw so many diskriminations against the roma people, especilly in my hometown. I thought the albanian learnd a lesson when they got diskriminated by the serbian people but fourtinitly not. When you talk about the kids begging for money or food , i rekognize my self. I saw so many kids in Kosovo begging for food and the owners just throw them our. Its like no one does a thing to make theire life better. I think this is a huge problem. I really hope that theire situation will change for something better.
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		<title>By: Taking Place &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Votanikos: Racism</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>Taking Place &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Votanikos: Racism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Panayote Dimitras</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Panayote Dimitras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people are ignornat but just google the term Roma Roma in Greek and will see that is now frequently used in the media and by authorities.</description>
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<p>Many people are ignornat but just google the term Roma Roma in Greek and will see that is now frequently used in the media and by authorities.
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		<title>By: Smitty</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panayote:
Is Roma a term known by most of the Greeks.&#160; I asked my Greek sister in-law who is 30 years old, university educated here in Greece and she had no idea what a &#34;ROMA&#34; was.&#160; She thought &#34;anthiganos&#34; was an appropriate term, as well as Gyftos.&#160; Also, she said a Tsiganos is a different type of gypsy (roma) who is more clean than the regular gypsy (roma).
I wonder if this is a common view among Greeks or is my sister-in-law just ignorant?&#160; I don't think she means them any harm but I've updated her on the proper terms.</description>
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<p>Panayote:<br />
Is Roma a term known by most of the Greeks.&nbsp; I asked my Greek sister in-law who is 30 years old, university educated here in Greece and she had no idea what a &quot;ROMA&quot; was.&nbsp; She thought &quot;anthiganos&quot; was an appropriate term, as well as Gyftos.&nbsp; Also, she said a Tsiganos is a different type of gypsy (roma) who is more clean than the regular gypsy (roma).<br />
I wonder if this is a common view among Greeks or is my sister-in-law just ignorant?&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think she means them any harm but I&#8217;ve updated her on the proper terms.
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		<title>By: No to Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>No to Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><strong>WHAT DON&#8217;T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT &#8220;YOU ARE BANNED&#8221;?</strong>
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		<title>By: No to Stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>No to Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Comment deleted by Devious Diva.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Your antics in the Chat Room just made you look stupid.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p><strong>Your antics in the Chat Room just made you look stupid.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>deviousdiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Well, it took me a while to realise, but I know who you are and I have asked you not to post here. Your last indignant comment gave you away.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<p><strong>Well, it took me a while to realise, but I know who you are and I have asked you not to post here. Your last indignant comment gave you away.</strong>
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		<title>By: No to Stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>No to Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Comment deleted by Devious Diva&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You are already banned from this blog.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>deviousdiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry people, I have been away from my machine a couple of days and I see several racist comments have slipped by me. I catch most and delete them without anyone seeing. Apologies to everyone for the offense that has been caused.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Smitty, your comment was caught by my spam filter. I approved it when I saw it. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Sorry people, I have been away from my machine a couple of days and I see several racist comments have slipped by me. I catch most and delete them without anyone seeing. Apologies to everyone for the offense that has been caused.</p>
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<p>Smitty, your comment was caught by my spam filter. I approved it when I saw it. </p>
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		<title>By: Panayote Dimitras</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Panayote Dimitras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me help with an answer to Smitty. By the way, I am disgusted that the &lt;em&gt;Anonymous&lt;/em&gt; racist crap is still posted above and in the education thread.In Greek &lt;em&gt;gyftos &lt;/em&gt;better translated as &lt;em&gt;gyp gypo&lt;/em&gt; is pejorative and insulting. &lt;em&gt;Rom&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Tsiganos &lt;/em&gt;are the acceptable -by them- terms. Then there is the term &lt;em&gt;athiganos&lt;/em&gt; which was the official authorities' designaiton of the group, equally unacceptable today.</description>
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<p>Let me help with an answer to Smitty. By the way, I am disgusted that the <em>Anonymous</em> racist crap is still posted above and in the education thread.In Greek <em>gyftos </em>better translated as <em>gyp gypo</em> is pejorative and insulting. <em>Rom</em> and <em>Tsiganos </em>are the acceptable -by them- terms. Then there is the term <em>athiganos</em> which was the official authorities&#8217; designaiton of the group, equally unacceptable today.
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		<title>By: Smitty3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smitty3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
I've read on your blog that the word &#34;Gypsy&#34; is a pejorative. Is this true or is this a position you've taken on your blog. It's the first time I've heard that it is a bad word. I've heard &#34;ROMA&#34; referred to as Gypsies for years as well as movies in Hollywood with the term &#34;Gypsy&#34; used as well as the music band &#34;Gypsy King&#34;.
Could you enlighten me a bit on the term, and also what's the difference between a Gypsy (Roma) and a Tzigano (another term I've heard).
No disrespect meant, just curious that's all.
P.S. I tried posting this several times in different places but it didn't work.&#160; Is there something wrong with wordpress today?
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<p>I&#8217;ve read on your blog that the word &quot;Gypsy&quot; is a pejorative. Is this true or is this a position you&#8217;ve taken on your blog. It&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve heard that it is a bad word. I&#8217;ve heard &quot;ROMA&quot; referred to as Gypsies for years as well as movies in Hollywood with the term &quot;Gypsy&quot; used as well as the music band &quot;Gypsy King&quot;.<br />
Could you enlighten me a bit on the term, and also what&#8217;s the difference between a Gypsy (Roma) and a Tzigano (another term I&#8217;ve heard).<br />
No disrespect meant, just curious that&#8217;s all.<br />
P.S. I tried posting this several times in different places but it didn&#8217;t work.&nbsp; Is there something wrong with wordpress today?
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: No to stupidity</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/08/01/votanikos-racism/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>No to stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well I don't know No to Communism, is it fair ?  No it isn't.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;But when there are things we can actually do to help or to change the unfairness isn't it better that we try rather than saying "that's life"&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Here's a great quote which I found yesterday but your comment made me want to post it now:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.  When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist "&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Dom &lt;strong&gt;Hélder Câmara&lt;/strong&gt; (Born February 7, 1909, Fortaleza, Ceará, North East Brazil . Died August 27, 1999 Recife)  He was Roman Catholic Archbishop of Olinda and Recife. He was widely considered one of the great Catholic figures of the 20th century.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Well I don&#8217;t know No to Communism, is it fair ?  No it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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<p>But when there are things we can actually do to help or to change the unfairness isn&#8217;t it better that we try rather than saying &#8220;that&#8217;s life&#8221;</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a great quote which I found yesterday but your comment made me want to post it now:</p>
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<p>&#8220;When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.  When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist &#8220;</p>
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<p>Dom <strong>Hélder Câmara</strong> (Born February 7, 1909, Fortaleza, Ceará, North East Brazil . Died August 27, 1999 Recife)  He was Roman Catholic Archbishop of Olinda and Recife. He was widely considered one of the great Catholic figures of the 20th century.</p>
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		<title>By: No to Communism</title>
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		<dc:creator>No to Communism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DD said:&#160; &#34;Because it is easier to throw someone in jail than to deal with the problems that led her to steal milk for her baby.&#34; 
Well, why not just divide all the money of the world equally and we can all the live in the Communist idealism.&#160; Ok, no one goes hungry, but then again it's a boring world when we all wear plaid and sing the same song.
Risk and success/failure is what makes the world go round.&#160; Some succeed and others fail.&#160; It's just part of life.
Is it wrong that the Roma get a bad deal?&#160; Probably, but hey that's life.&#160; When my Dad died of lung cancer at 50, was that fair?&#160; </description>
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<p>DD said:&nbsp; &quot;Because it is easier to throw someone in jail than to deal with the problems that led her to steal milk for her baby.&quot;<br />
Well, why not just divide all the money of the world equally and we can all the live in the Communist idealism.&nbsp; Ok, no one goes hungry, but then again it&#8217;s a boring world when we all wear plaid and sing the same song.<br />
Risk and success/failure is what makes the world go round.&nbsp; Some succeed and others fail.&nbsp; It&#8217;s just part of life.<br />
Is it wrong that the Roma get a bad deal?&nbsp; Probably, but hey that&#8217;s life.&nbsp; When my Dad died of lung cancer at 50, was that fair?&nbsp;
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