Comments on: Conscientious objection http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/29/conscientious-objection/ The only thing necessary for the persistence of evil is for enough good people to do nothing. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:23:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: starfish http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/29/conscientious-objection/#comment-191 starfish Mon, 29 May 2006 13:52:29 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/?p=29#comment-191 But  Amnesty is making recommendations of the changes that should be made to the law so that Greece is in line with UN resolutions. Specifically the following: Reduce the length of alternative, civilian service so that it is no longer of a punitive and discriminatory duration, in line with UN Resolution 1998/77 Article 6 which states that "States, <strong>in their law and practice, must not discriminate against conscientious objectors</strong> in relation to their terms and conditions of service, or any economic, cultural, civil or political rights"; Ensure that conscientious objectors have the right to claim conscientious objector status at any time, both up to and after entering the armed forces, in accordance with UN Commission on Human Rights resolutions 1993/84 and 1998/77 Ensure that alternative civilian service falls under entirely civilian authority (including the examination of applications for conscientious objectors), as stipulated in Article 3 of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights Resolution 1998/77 which "calls upon States that do not have such a system to establish independent and impartial decision-making bodies with the task of determining whether a conscientious objection is genuinely held in a specific case, taking account of the requirement not to discriminate against conscientious objectors on the basis of the nature of their particular beliefs"

But  Amnesty is making recommendations of the changes that should be made to the law so that Greece is in line with UN resolutions. Specifically the following:

Reduce the length of alternative, civilian service so that it is no longer of a punitive and discriminatory duration, in line with UN Resolution 1998/77 Article 6 which states that "States, in their law and practice, must not discriminate against conscientious objectors in relation to their terms and conditions of service, or any economic, cultural, civil or political rights";

Ensure that conscientious objectors have the right to claim conscientious objector status at any time, both up to and after entering the armed forces, in accordance with UN Commission on Human Rights resolutions 1993/84 and 1998/77

Ensure that alternative civilian service falls under entirely civilian authority (including the examination of applications for conscientious objectors), as stipulated in Article 3 of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights Resolution 1998/77 which "calls upon States that do not have such a system to establish independent and impartial decision-making bodies with the task of determining whether a conscientious objection is genuinely held in a specific case, taking account of the requirement not to discriminate against conscientious objectors on the basis of the nature of their particular beliefs"

]]> By: Hermes http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/29/conscientious-objection/#comment-190 Hermes Mon, 29 May 2006 09:20:55 +0000 http://deviousdiva.com/?p=29#comment-190 Let me remind fellow bloggers that the Greek Constitution  states the following:   Article 4 (6) Every Greek able to bear arms shall be obliged to assist in the defence of the nation, as provided by law.  To object is illegal under the Greek constitution. Remember, this is the same constitution used to defend the rights of Karahasan. Does a nation like Hellas cede some of its sovereignty by changing its constitution to satisfy a suprantional body such as Amnesty International? Does Amnesty take into account that defensive measures of some nations are different than others? Is issuing a report on such an issue offensive to Greek people on the day of the 511th anniversary of the last gasp of freedom on the walls of Constantinople before they were occupied for over 400 years?  

Let me remind fellow bloggers that the Greek Constitution  states the following:
 
Article 4
(6) Every Greek able to bear arms shall be obliged to assist in the defence of the nation, as provided by law. 

To object is illegal under the Greek constitution. Remember, this is the same constitution used to defend the rights of Karahasan.

Does a nation like Hellas cede some of its sovereignty by changing its constitution to satisfy a suprantional body such as Amnesty International?

Does Amnesty take into account that defensive measures of some nations are different than others?

Is issuing a report on such an issue offensive to Greek people on the day of the 511th anniversary of the last gasp of freedom on the walls of Constantinople before they were occupied for over 400 years?
 

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