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		<title>By: deviousdiva</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/12/blog-against-sexism/#comment-8269</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Guy, I agree with Laura that you were implying that she was a feminazi. The word is totally offensive and is used to make out that feminists are evil people who would wish violence on people they disagree with. We are in fact people who have opinions about the world we live in and are not afraid to speak up about issues that affect us. We do not hate men or wish to kill them. The "nice guys" I know personally are also vocal about the violence that is inflicted on women and the imbalance of power that exists. They can see the injustices that are perpetrated by men and are not threatened when a woman challenges the situation. 

No, not all men are bad but as Laura wrote &lt;blockquote&gt;because men are generally the ones with religious, political, social, and economic power, men do have a responsibility for why the world is as it is&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you Laura for being so eloquent on this subject and I apologise that I haven't been here to welcome you to my blog. So welcome and I hope you will read and comment here. By the way I would like to be included as a friend over at your place (I don't have a Live Journal account) if you would consider adding me? (email me)</description>
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<p>Nice Guy, I agree with Laura that you were implying that she was a feminazi. The word is totally offensive and is used to make out that feminists are evil people who would wish violence on people they disagree with. We are in fact people who have opinions about the world we live in and are not afraid to speak up about issues that affect us. We do not hate men or wish to kill them. The &#8220;nice guys&#8221; I know personally are also vocal about the violence that is inflicted on women and the imbalance of power that exists. They can see the injustices that are perpetrated by men and are not threatened when a woman challenges the situation. </p>
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<p>No, not all men are bad but as Laura wrote </p>
<blockquote><p>because men are generally the ones with religious, political, social, and economic power, men do have a responsibility for why the world is as it is</p></blockquote>
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<p>Thank you Laura for being so eloquent on this subject and I apologise that I haven&#8217;t been here to welcome you to my blog. So welcome and I hope you will read and comment here. By the way I would like to be included as a friend over at your place (I don&#8217;t have a Live Journal account) if you would consider adding me? (email me)
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/12/blog-against-sexism/#comment-8219</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Guy, 

When you posted that in response to my comment, your implication was that I was a feminazi. You did not outright say it, but just because you sneer it behind your hand instead of calling me a feminazi to my face does not mean that wasn't what you meant. 

Also, yes, I am aware that Rush Limbaugh (a man with an admitted drug addiction, so I really question his popularity to the true conservatives) coined the term "feminazi." And because he tacked "nazi" onto a word, he DID, in fact, associate feminists with Nazis. His use of the word does not make it an acceptable term. It is offensive, rude, and vile, and it doesn't matter who is the one to say it. 

Your use of the term makes me suspect that you are not, in fact, a "nice guy." Because nice guys, and in fact, decent human beings, do not call other people Nazi or a derivative thereof. 

"Nice guys" (read: decent human beings), when it has been pointed out that what they have said is offensive, APOLOGIZE for causing offense. They do not try to cover their tracks by making the offended party appear oversensitive and ignorant. They do not try to shift blame onto someone else. They accept responsibility for what they've said, and then they apologize, and then they move on.</description>
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<p>Nice Guy, </p>
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<p>When you posted that in response to my comment, your implication was that I was a feminazi. You did not outright say it, but just because you sneer it behind your hand instead of calling me a feminazi to my face does not mean that wasn&#8217;t what you meant. </p>
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<p>Also, yes, I am aware that Rush Limbaugh (a man with an admitted drug addiction, so I really question his popularity to the true conservatives) coined the term &#8220;feminazi.&#8221; And because he tacked &#8220;nazi&#8221; onto a word, he DID, in fact, associate feminists with Nazis. His use of the word does not make it an acceptable term. It is offensive, rude, and vile, and it doesn&#8217;t matter who is the one to say it. </p>
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<p>Your use of the term makes me suspect that you are not, in fact, a &#8220;nice guy.&#8221; Because nice guys, and in fact, decent human beings, do not call other people Nazi or a derivative thereof. </p>
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<p>&#8220;Nice guys&#8221; (read: decent human beings), when it has been pointed out that what they have said is offensive, APOLOGIZE for causing offense. They do not try to cover their tracks by making the offended party appear oversensitive and ignorant. They do not try to shift blame onto someone else. They accept responsibility for what they&#8217;ve said, and then they apologize, and then they move on.
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		<title>By: Nice Guy</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/12/blog-against-sexism/#comment-8157</link>
		<dc:creator>Nice Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,

I said that "Some Feminazis to....."  I DID NOT say that you were a feminazi.

Also, feminazi is a term used by popular, conservative, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh in the USA.  It is not associated with Nazis.  It simply refers to a feminist who goes beyond the norm with her views.</description>
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<p>Laura,</p>
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<p>I said that &#8220;Some Feminazis to&#8230;..&#8221;  I DID NOT say that you were a feminazi.</p>
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<p>Also, feminazi is a term used by popular, conservative, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh in the USA.  It is not associated with Nazis.  It simply refers to a feminist who goes beyond the norm with her views.
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Guy,
Perhaps I should have clarified. Not all men have made the world a place that I don't particularly care to live in. I should have clarified, and I apologize that I did not.
Not all men are evil. I know quite a few who are exemplary human beings. And not all women are free of guilt, either. I never meant to imply that. But because men are generally the ones with religious, political, social, and economic power, men do have a responsibility for why the world is as it is. 

I did not, in fact, forget that Jesus was a man, although it is extremely presumptuous of you to think that because I exist, I am a Christian. I am, in fact, NOT Christian. I pointedly did not mention religion in my original comment. That's actually neither here nor there.

HOWEVER. DO NOT CALL ME A FEMINAZI.
Point one. I have never been a member of any political party other than the US Democratic party. Ergo, I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the "National Socialist German Workers Party" or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (N.S.A.D.P). (aka the NAZI party). Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.

Point two. As a feminist, I work for equal rights. Therefore, I am not engaged in eliminating the voices of (among others) anti-socialist, homosexual, Jewish, Romany, mentally disabled, physically disabled, elderly, or other non-"Aryan" people from society. Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.

Point three. While I am of German ancestry, I'm not old enough to have been alive during WWII and the years preceding it. Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.
Subpoint of Point three. I have never worked for any national government, nor have I ever been a member of the armed forces. Therefore, I have never been associated with the Nazi government, and am still not a Nazi, nor am I a feminazi.

Point four. In my quest to achieve equal rights for myself and all women, I have never been engaged in torturing, starving, imprisoning, disenfranchising, dehumanizing, and murdering millions of people in Europe. Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.

By calling me a feminazi, you not only degrade and insult me, you insult feminists, WWII veterans and anyone who lived through that war, and surviving and deceased victims of the Nazis' atrocities. CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY. 



(DeviousDiva, I am terribly sorry to comment in this fashion on your blog. If it is out of line, please delete my comment. I do not mean to bring stress into your life. I merely wanted to thank you and congratulate you for clearly and concisely articulating some of the things that make me not want to live in this world.)</description>
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<p>Nice Guy,<br />
Perhaps I should have clarified. Not all men have made the world a place that I don&#8217;t particularly care to live in. I should have clarified, and I apologize that I did not.<br />
Not all men are evil. I know quite a few who are exemplary human beings. And not all women are free of guilt, either. I never meant to imply that. But because men are generally the ones with religious, political, social, and economic power, men do have a responsibility for why the world is as it is. </p>
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<p>I did not, in fact, forget that Jesus was a man, although it is extremely presumptuous of you to think that because I exist, I am a Christian. I am, in fact, NOT Christian. I pointedly did not mention religion in my original comment. That&#8217;s actually neither here nor there.</p>
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<p>HOWEVER. DO NOT CALL ME A FEMINAZI.<br />
Point one. I have never been a member of any political party other than the US Democratic party. Ergo, I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the &#8220;National Socialist German Workers Party&#8221; or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (N.S.A.D.P). (aka the NAZI party). Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.</p>
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<p>Point two. As a feminist, I work for equal rights. Therefore, I am not engaged in eliminating the voices of (among others) anti-socialist, homosexual, Jewish, Romany, mentally disabled, physically disabled, elderly, or other non-&#8221;Aryan&#8221; people from society. Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.</p>
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<p>Point three. While I am of German ancestry, I&#8217;m not old enough to have been alive during WWII and the years preceding it. Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.<br />
Subpoint of Point three. I have never worked for any national government, nor have I ever been a member of the armed forces. Therefore, I have never been associated with the Nazi government, and am still not a Nazi, nor am I a feminazi.</p>
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<p>Point four. In my quest to achieve equal rights for myself and all women, I have never been engaged in torturing, starving, imprisoning, disenfranchising, dehumanizing, and murdering millions of people in Europe. Therefore, I am not a Nazi, and am therefore not a feminazi.</p>
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<p>By calling me a feminazi, you not only degrade and insult me, you insult feminists, WWII veterans and anyone who lived through that war, and surviving and deceased victims of the Nazis&#8217; atrocities. CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY. </p>
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<p>(DeviousDiva, I am terribly sorry to comment in this fashion on your blog. If it is out of line, please delete my comment. I do not mean to bring stress into your life. I merely wanted to thank you and congratulate you for clearly and concisely articulating some of the things that make me not want to live in this world.)
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		<title>By: Nice Guy</title>
		<link>http://deviousdiva.com/2006/05/12/blog-against-sexism/#comment-7706</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,

What did I do specifically as a man?  

I think it's chauvinistic of some Feminazis to paint all men with a broad stroke as being some imperious evil beings.

Most women in this world appreciate the contributions of men.  Don't forget, Jesus Christ was a man (or did you forget).

Who is being an extremist now?</description>
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<p>Laura,</p>
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<p>What did I do specifically as a man?  </p>
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<p>I think it&#8217;s chauvinistic of some Feminazis to paint all men with a broad stroke as being some imperious evil beings.</p>
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<p>Most women in this world appreciate the contributions of men.  Don&#8217;t forget, Jesus Christ was a man (or did you forget).</p>
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<p>Who is being an extremist now?
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here via &lt;a href="http://notafeministbut.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;I'm Not A Feminist, But&lt;/a&gt; who has you linked. I found the post going back through your archived Important Posts. [/background info]

I just wanted to say that I agree with you 100%: I don't want to live in this world either, and I get so angry when men try and say that it's not their fault that these conditions exist for women. Except that they do have a responsibility for this situation, because they're the ones who have made the world like this.
Thank you for expressing this in writing, and making it open to the world.</description>
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<p>I came here via <a href="http://notafeministbut.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m Not A Feminist, But</a> who has you linked. I found the post going back through your archived Important Posts. [/background info]</p>
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<p>I just wanted to say that I agree with you 100%: I don&#8217;t want to live in this world either, and I get so angry when men try and say that it&#8217;s not their fault that these conditions exist for women. Except that they do have a responsibility for this situation, because they&#8217;re the ones who have made the world like this.<br />
Thank you for expressing this in writing, and making it open to the world.
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