Flubber: Can I use your ashwholes phrase. That’s quite a good one to get around the FCC’s profanity rule (wink wink).

I think that this topic has officially left the building….

Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.

Sincerely,
An inferior Greek who hopes the rest of the world doesn’t think we’re all ash-wholes.

As my friend Grissom always says, “People lie, but the evidence never does”.

One comemnt only to all those who here or elsewhere ask the question about what Karahasan is and imply that “loaylties” matter: there are Greek minority minstres in the Albanian government and Albanina minority ministers in the Macedonian government and from time to time Turkish ministers in Bulgaria and Hungarian ministers in Romania. Could you please adjust the “question” and see how much sense it makes…

I too would like this discussion to end. It should have ended a long time ago.

No - to the first paragraph.

My humble (and sincere) apologies to Diva. Funny thing is, I agree with her on most things. But I’ll be on my way. She is lucky to have you to champion her.

Tell me, do you go over to a man’s house for the first time, do you take off your shoes? Do you put your feet up on his coffee table? Do you walk in the kitchen, eat food that doesn’t belong to you? Open the door to rooms you got no business opening?

So, why are you doing this to Diva? She is God. Please don’t argue with her. It’s her blog and there are other Islands out there, but we choose to agree with Diva. If you don’t, hit google and find one of those other Islands.

I hope you don’t think your mushy speech will make Diva change her mind. From reading her blog, she is a smart, intelligent lady who doesn’t sway from her point of view.

So, just move on with the rest of the people who disagree with us on this blog. In fact, why don’t you guys just make your own blog. Then you can come over and take a peek at what we’re saying and then you can blog your responses to us.

Think of it like you guys are the “Others” living in the jungle on one side of an island, and we are like the people living on the beach side.

The original thread was about the Muslim woman standing as a candidate in Northeren Greece. What I am saying at this point is enough is enough, because people have become abusive towards each other and that is NOT a discussion. I draw the line at personal insults towards myself and anyone else on this blog. And I don’t care who started it and who joined in and who said what, just that I don’t like it and it doesn’t help dialogue. There will be no notices of “only like-minded people can comment” I have never closed down an argument where people are debating uncomfortable issues. You would know that if you read more of this blog.
As Scruffy American pointed out one of the problems here is that a couple of blogs that some of you frequent have closed down (or are a little slow at the moment) and I feel you have brought your arguments over here so you can continue them. I haven’t seen some of you here for such a long time that I don’t think it’s a coincidence that you are back here now. I could be wrong, but thats how it feels to me.

I am not even going to talk about which issues I can or cannot blog about. We have been over that many times in the past. Just get used to it or please find other blogs that are more to your taste. I write what I write. That is my right. It is also your right to get yourself a blog and write whatever you want. Do not expect me to be jumping over there, telling you that you cannot write about problems and issues in England just because I am English.

Personally, I would prefer not to play the role of big bad controlling babysitter, but if these comments disintergrate to the point where people are afraid to speak up for fear of being insulted and swiped at, then it is up to me to put a stop to it.

I have not deleted comments that critisise me personally and my writing or your negative opinions about my blog. I am sure people are able to judge for themselves, so I am not going to waste anymore of my time justifying myself against false accusations.

“The issue of superiority is universal and not only amongst whites. ALL races view their kind favourably and all enjoy being with others of their own kind.”

is, I think, necessarily true, though not limited to race. I think saying that someone, some race, some place is “better” is saying “I prefer it”. It is personal and impossible to substantiate with facts being too tied up with emotion. It could be that you preferred those who went to University together, those who played sport together, those who live in the same otherwise nondescript small town. It’s about love, at base, and preference which is part of love. If you love someone or something or some place you incline towards it, necessarily prefer it over other otherwise similar people, things or places. I love my children, my husband, my garden, my town, my wardrobes (yes, even my wardrobes), my values. But I can recognise that other people love other things and are inclined towards those. It would take an unbelievable arrogance and small mindedness to be absolutely sure that my preferences were always right, would it not?

I also do not think that IQ tests tell the whole picture though they are a good indicator of strengths in some areas and, moreover, since I am female, I feel no need to tell everyone what my score usually is …

My point?

I am sorry that Devious Diva cannot accommodate you on her site. I guess that is the difference between a forum and a blog, and I prefer the former. I tend to think that if you publish your thoughts for the whole on-line world to read, you should expect to attract challenges to those thoughts. DD, relinquish control a bit. You do not need necessarily to respond to comments that make you mad … we don’t think you are associated with them. See your self more as a facilitator of lively discussions that the diva that all bow before. You can just post another blog and move on, but something you read in response might just alter your perspective. Otherwise, why not have a restricted readership of like minded people?